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Alazardragoon · Jun 29, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24

Hey guys first of all id like to say i would LOVE to post my build on here but I have no clue how to copy and paste the images in game to here...I tried CTR C and it just copied some random letters like XiA2eEXKe2 stuff like that. So that was not going to help. secondly i will type out the skills i have on my bar right now...

Splinter Weapon

Cruel Was Daoshen
Channeled Strike
Ancestors Rage
spirit Rift
essence Strike
Spirit of pain
Dissonance

Those are my current skills and my current build. Here is the Bunch of letters that came with that when I tried to post it maybe it will help you guys figure it out better...hopefully

OACjAyiLJNYMhZy0b64WmfzMHA

What i am looking for is a Spirit spammer build that is to deal Damage in PvE. Mixing up any other Ritualist only abilities is ok, I am a Rit/Monk but I would like to stick to Rit skills if possible.

Chthon · Jun 29, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Vampirisim, Anguish, Bloodsong, Pain, Summon Spirits, Painful Bond. There's an offensive PvE spirit Spammer. Rest is optional.

Lord Xivor · Jun 29, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34

[build=OACjAyiLJNYMhZy0b64WmfzMHA]

There you go. That is the build you posted. However, as Chthon said, his is superior.

[Vampirism][Bloodsong][Pain][Anguish][Shadowsong][Summon Spirits][Painful Bond][Offering of Spirit]

That is my "damage dealing spirit spammer".

spirit of defeat · Jun 29, 2008, 07:38 PM // 19:38

you need to put that code between [build; insert code here ]
[build;OACjAyiLJNYMhZy0b64WmfzMHA]
About your build,
It sucks
You say you want to be a spirit spammer but you only have 2 spirits.
If you really want to be a spirit spammer try this:
[build;OACjAqiLpSDg+gfTlTRbHXVTeTA].
It's fast and strong And it will keep you busy/useful for the rest of the team.

Alazardragoon · Jun 29, 2008, 08:37 PM // 20:37

I like the one you put spirit of defeat however, My guild does not do PvP and its just a small starting guild right now. So If the affect of that skill is based off rank id be screwed. and my guild is not Luxon lol...

Marverick · Jun 29, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Vampirism is based on your Sunspear rank.

Summon Spirits is based on your Luxon/Kurzick rank for the healing effect, but that's not really the purpose of the skill. So it still works.

Also [Splinter Weapon] > [Ancestors' Rage]

upier · Jun 29, 2008, 09:13 PM // 21:13

I am guessing you only have Factions?
And are just starting?

Superb idea on including [splinter weapon] and [ancestor's rage]. Great skills. You'd want to keep them in your build.
[Spirit Rift] is massive damage - but it takes ages to happen. Toy around with it a bit - but for most of the time I find it to be to slow to matter.
[Essence Strike] is a nice option until you get better energy management options. If you have Nightfall - that means [Offering Of Spirit] - otherwise [Assassin's Promise] is insanely sweet!
As you can see - spirits have insanely little armour and little health - so if they get targeted they will die in a matter of seconds. That's is also the reason why most people don't bother with spirits these days and why Channeling and Restoration are preferred attributes.
Did you ever consider some offensive Channeling skills (such as the above listed AR/SW) with defensive Restoration spirits (such as [life] and [recuperation] (mixed with goodies like [vengeful Weapon] or it's elite counterpart [weapon of remedy] (Nightfall only though))?
Or is offensive spirit spam the only way you want to go?

Alazardragoon · Jun 29, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

I tried other stuff but found it most fun to play around with spirits a lot. Right now im playing with OACjAyiLJNYMhZy0b64WmfzMHA I seem to do ok with it, Its not that great yet, Because im only about Senjins corner far in factions. I want to get some elite skills soon from it.

Lhim · Jun 29, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49

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Originally Posted by Alazardragoon

I tried other stuff but found it most fun to play around with spirits a lot. Right now im playing with OACjAyiLJNYMhZy0b64WmfzMHA I seem to do ok with it, Its not that great yet, Because im only about Senjins corner far in factions. I want to get some elite skills soon from it.

[Your current build;OACjAyiLJNYMhZy0b64WmfzMHA] I think the first elite you can get is [tranquil was tanasen] which won't do you any good for your current build. If you progress a bit more you can get [signet of spirits] in echovald forest, which is more useful for your build.
I would drop dissonance and pain though and invest into restoration magic. [life] is a good option then. So is [protective was kaolai] instead of your current item spell. And of course, max out channeling.

You'll be using spirits (actually only 1 is enough), but more to power your spells. For dedicating to damage done by your spirits you can try some of the builds already posted.

p.s. Just use quote to see how you can post builds.

Alazardragoon · Jun 30, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50

Actually I re did my build to a more spirit oriented build this is it now

OACjAyiLJNFsy538s94WmezkJA I am at Zin ku corridor now. If you guys know of any elite skills that are available to me now to improve on that build, or still have any comments on how I could make it better with Stock skills (The basic trainer skills) No summon spirit Luxon and stuff lol. Cuz I dont have it yet. If there is an elite skill I can get soon though within the next 3-4 missions that will help plz let me know as well, Thanks ^_^

**Marty Silverblade** · Jun 30, 2008, 07:36 AM // 07:36

[Build;OACjAyiLJNFsy538s94WmezkJA]

Hmmm, direct damage skills like Channeled Strike aren't all that good (except Essence Strike, of course, which is there to provide energy). I'd drop it and then MwV (since you don't need the item spell anymore) for [[Painful Bond] (you've got 3 offensive spirits), and something else. Maybe a PvE skill when you get them, a rez, self-heal, whatever.

Cebe · Jun 30, 2008, 09:12 AM // 09:12

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Originally Posted by Alazardragoon

[Rit;OACjAyiLJNFsy538s94WmezkJA] I am at Zin ku corridor now. If you guys know of any elite skills that are available to me now to improve on that build,

The best elites I reckon available to you just now are either [[Weapon of Quickening] (from Vizunah Square mission or pongmei Valley), or [[Spirit Channeling] (from Shenzun Tunnels). Spirit Channeling would do as decent energy management until you can get [[Signet of Spirits].

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Originally Posted by Alazardragoon

or still have any comments on how I could make it better with Stock skills (The basic trainer skills) No summon spirit Luxon and stuff lol. Cuz I dont have it yet. If there is an elite skill I can get soon though within the next 3-4 missions that will help plz let me know as well, Thanks ^_^

I would stop using Mighty was Vorizun sometime. When you compare it to the mods you can get on a staff, or other item spells such as [[Protective was Kaolai] it's really not that great. I personally don't like [[Channeled Strike] because it seems like a lot of energy for what it is, especially with the bit about holding an item. Get [[Painful Bond] in there instead for additional damage from spirits. You could stick [[Splinter Weapon] in instead of Mighty was Vorizun for now to give you additional physical buffing abilities when not casting spirits.

If you have all your attribute points I'd be tempted to spread them:
Communing: 12 + 1 + 1
Channeling: 10 + 1
Spawning: 8 + 1

spirit of defeat · Jul 01, 2008, 11:33 AM // 11:33

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Originally Posted by Alazardragoon

I like the one you put spirit of defeat however, My guild does not do PvP and its just a small starting guild right now. So If the affect of that skill is based off rank id be screwed. and my guild is not Luxon lol...

first of all, If you don't do PVP doesn't matter, your luxon/kurzick skills are the same, and second. The thing it is doing is teleporting your spirits, the healing is just a bonus.

second [[Vampirism] is advided but can be replaced, it does make thing harder.
Getting you sunspear @8 which shouldn work isn't that hard.

Third the last skill is optional, your choice to take rage, splinter, or anything you want.

horseradish · Jul 03, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22

If your sunspear rank isn't high enough, [Shadowsong] makes a good replacement.

spirit of defeat · Jul 04, 2008, 01:34 PM // 13:34

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Originally Posted by horseradish

If your sunspear rank isn't high enough, [Shadowsong] makes a good replacement.

it work's but it's not as good, farming SS/LB is a better option.

Alazardragoon · Jul 17, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

well spirit im using the build you told me now. But I will tell you i am running it with a gimped sun spear rank, I believe my spirit is only level 5 and takes like 14 health. I guess its ok though. I don't know how to farm SS rank faster than beating nightfall the game itself...so im working on it slowly. Along with more pvping for money with Z keys and my kruzick HP skill + By the way getting this build all together took me about 80 in game hours. It was a lot of work, I really hope its one of the best offensive spirit spammer builds out there.

upier · Jul 17, 2008, 11:54 AM // 11:54

So I was toying around with spirit spam the other day again - and boy does it suck.
The damage when done right IS sweet - but it doesn't happen that often.
The guys die WAY to easy and their AI is equal to a lobotomized Alesia.
On weed.

I adore spirits - but this simply can not compare to a Channeling+PvE-only-skills bar.

BigDave · Jul 17, 2008, 02:01 PM // 14:01

I use this build quite frequently when i have a couple of DoT nukers in the group. I have 5-6 main builds that i cycle through, and this one works very well for me. Done lots of HM h/h with it.

[build=OACjAyiM5QVT+gfTlTbMHX5iuiA]

Atts, Channeling - 12+1+2, Communing - 12, SP - 3

The 3 spirts with painful bond will rip just about anything to peices. Nightmare weapon just adds to the damage but can easily be swapped out for something else. The battle standard add huge amounts of damage if you keep your backline or minions in it. Snow Storm is nice for extra AoE but again, it's easily swapable, maybe for [pain inverter], [splinter weapon], [ancestors' rage] or [spirit rift].

Alazardragoon · Jul 17, 2008, 05:11 PM // 17:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by upier

So I was toying around with spirit spam the other day again - and boy does it suck.
The damage when done right IS sweet - but it doesn't happen that often.
The guys die WAY to easy and their AI is equal to a lobotomized Alesia.
On weed.

I adore spirits - but this simply can not compare to a Channeling+PvE-only-skills bar.

Ill agree that its really not easy to get it working properly. What I usually do (PvE only) Is send my henchmen/heros into battle first, After I already summoned my spirits, Then teleport them to my location behind where my henchmen are fighting, Cast painful bond on the group of enemies and let my spirits kick their ass. It works out great, The only problem Iv encountered so far is Anguish takes up a lot of energy to cast & only lasts about 45 seconds. with my communing as high as it can go, And If you forget to cast offering of spirit every time you have a chance you can find yourself running out of energy. I have 80 Energy on my rit but his Energy recovery is -2.

As for ME I also adore Spirits so much. I realize that using them is basically gimping what my rit could be. but in all honesty its so much more fun. That to me in PVE its worth it. In pvp i go Healer rit though.